The state of World of Warcraft…

dude this thumbnail was gold, give ur editor a summer bonus

This is such a great idea. Hope they do something like this.

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Wotlk stinks rofl the relativism cope is unreal, give it 3 months

Hydra feeling Wotlk old days again! 🔥

Absolutely spot on about everything.

I'm just hoping the Riot MMO will be the new home. Wow just fucked me so many times I'm done for good

5:00 HotS was far from crap, switching to it from League was a fantastic decision. I've never had a more fun time in a MOBA game, playing at the highest ranks. Over the next years, eventually, 10-20 of my friends who ALL were skeptical to the game (and already playing League) started playing. One by one, they all ended up playing 500+ to 1000s of games during the next 2 years, and some nights we had 10-12 people who wanted to play together, while on League it was usually 4-5 people.

You're right that it wasn't perfect from an esports standpoint. Blizzard just made tons of mistakes (as usual) by having a bad monetization system, and game elements that could be expanded/improved on to make it even more appealing, and to compete against the other MOBAs. Instead they just decided to scrap it instead of trying to fix stuff, as they've done countless times with WoW too.

World of Warcraft has its unique advantage over the arena-styled games like League of Legends in being a full world, with stories, memories and persistent matter. What Blizzard should have done is embraced that aspect, even for a PvP-setting. Do not fasten the leveling-process in any way, let new players experience the full difficulty and hardships of the world so they get to look in wonder at the fully-leveled gods.

We live in a world spinning too fast, don't cater to that crowd by speeding everything up and making it simpler as to avoid people having to stop to think, take in the scenery and remember a quest-text. Being impatient should not have been rewarded, addons – the semi-integration of a third-party element meaning everyone is playing a somewhat different game – is the historical mistake, and for every conceivable reason is banned within competitive PvP.

There should be no separation between a casual player and the pro – they should exist within the same world, on the same server. And most importantly – characters should only exist on one server. There will be varying gear in tournaments due to different raid-drops, and that is a skill-set in and on itself to adapt to, but there should not be a sterile, alternate universe (aka tournament server) where the perfect gear is always so to make it a perfect playing-field.

That does not entice the average player, the most obvious spectator, as he or she can't recognize themselves in it. If they could see Hydramist, the good priest they ran Deadmines with, compete with that very same character that would create a legend they would follow and cheer for.

It should not be a right to have 5 rogues easily-leveled to have a better chance of getting as close to 100% BiS as possible. "Hydrafive" take away from the world-building, forcing pros to choose either to spend months leveling or being with one character adds flavour, mastery and identity to the game.

"Oh, look Hydra is running the Naxx-wand because he did not get the drop last night, he will be at a disadvantage over Hozito who got the drop" is enticing, frustrating to be the receiver of of course, but every player can relate to the experience. And see your hardships. But complaining about GCD's, trinkets and pedantic mechanics – there is no crowd for it, there is only the initiated few and Arena will remain just this obscure thing most people ignore if they can't see a dream-version of themselves but something Blizzard-supported and gear-doped.

Maybe I'm in a super minority here, but if Arena had a sortof barebones mode with no addons and HUD limited if not gone aswell. To me without addons keeping track of everything the contest of skill would be night and day.
The idea comes from having my cat loving to get in front of the screen to compete for attention.
Everyone has that one character they could easily play blind.

Having to memorize and learn all the different spell sounds/animations.
One example, even though a paladin heal SOUNDS the same, you'd know it's only flash if its casted quickly. But what if it's a holy and thats not actually flash of light and its fast Holy light?
Or say a priest, did they use their CC breaker cooldown? Or was it just dispel magic? well if a druid roots you, that doesn't need the CC breaker.

I know I'm not the only one who would enjoy competing with nothing but our expirence and wits.
I don't play arena right now cause it looks so solved that if I just jumped into it I'd be griefing.
If the rewards were not quite deadly i lvl but still higher than hateful and savage.
Idk maybe this is just a long justification for why I won't sack up and learn the meta, yes I cannot deny that is part of it.
I feel like alot of talented players avoid arena cause having an entire part of the UI do that thinking for you does make senses. You want to automate as much thinking as you can so you have brainpower for strategy and reactions.
I'm going im circles, but I think they should try it. Hell it could be 1v1 only or something to avoid players brains exploding.
I'd love to go toe to toe with players that want a more visceral competition.
Idk this game was created like any other game, to be enjoyed. And if you like regular arena, good its nice to have things in life you enjoy.
I'm just someone who wants to play Arena but hates how solved it is. Sure barebones would still be intense. But you may be able to win against a stronger class by being able to keep track of themselves and the other player.

I am a pvper so each expansion I jump on, grind out to max level and then start pumping Bgs to get my gear then do arena.
Since WOD i feel like pvp is just button smashing and amazing effects, but nothing is really happening like it feels like there is no weight to my abilities. As a feral main on retail and wrath in wrath im shred bursting like crazy and with bloods stacked, savage roar up and shredding my pressure outside of berserk is immense. If I have berserker up then I either kill or almost kill my target every time.
In retail I go in and I am button smashing and using like 3-4 other abilities and people are running around the map like crazy because every class is insanely mobile and I am button smashing my targets but feel like im doing no damage and when I am doing damage every class has self healing so they heal it back every time anyway and I am waiting on my convoke cooldown or waiting for a gateway for my convoke and pop that, if the target does not die then its another 3 minutes for my convoke.

Nice man, really good description.

fax bruh

Truth has been spoken. But tbh if they delete retail and just remake the game from wotlk, there is still a chance of comeback. Lets be honest modern graphics and wotlk gameplay will kill any other mmo. The worst part of wow though is that every expantion just completely changes the class instead of fixing the existing issues and keeping everything as it is. Thats from where balancing issues come (not speaking about what they actually did with classes that makes me want to throw up). And if you first balance pvp and than pve (as its a fucking mob with prescripted shit) everything will be ok. Kinda make pve more like pvp encounters with cross cc interupts dispels and so on (like give a small brain to the mobs, and make them into classes of their own ).

Even to a casual viewer they will never appreciate the nuance of deathing a blind

this is so sad

What do you guys think happens after Season 8? I have no clue. :<

Stop looking like Asmongold so you get more views