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World of Warcraft Alternatives – Turtle WoW or Vanilla Plus Differences



My opinion on the status and differences of World of Warcraft Vanilla private servers Turtle WoW and Vanilla Plus. Both of these are currently two of the best and go to servers for anyone seeking that vanilla 1.16 version of the game.

As good as retail was it was still flawed and had the same issues as when the game first launched. So much was so good and so much needed work. Both Turtle WoW and Vanilla plus aim to do just that. Giving players a difference experience by changing classes and skills. Adding depth and new spells to class specs. The addition of new lands, instances, raids and quests built through lore enriching content and released in patch like expansions.

Which is best Turtle WoW or Vanilla Plus? In this video I dive deep into what I have seen so far on both servers. Discuss some of the small issues but mostly go into how great both of these servers are.

I think anyone looking for an alternative WoW experiences and who want to enjoy a vanilla or classic experience can find a home and enjoy themselves on either or both of these servers.

If retail Classic World of Warcraft didn’t fill that vanilla need, then maybe its time to go into a different idea of vanilla wow. Explore and come along on the journey as both servers plan to build on what was so goo and continue putting out content for all players to enjoy.

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39 Comments

  1. I recently dinged 60 on turtle but I'm pretty much done. I can't stand vanilla raiding – most monotonous boring experience outside of lvling imo – and I love vanilla pvp but the original systems are incredibly degen for gear that is simply bad compared to post naxx bis. I'd def come back if they did a pvp gear update and rework to make the grind less absurd and the gear actually on par with at least aq40. That and frankly, the 6 to 7k queues during prime time along with the lag that comes with it are really unfun. I'm looking forward to project epoch, they have plans on designing the pvp systems and gear to be competitive which is exciting.

  2. Jesus, turtle really blew up. Its a shame because the class changes in vanilla+ were great but i see why turtle won the most players in the end. Hope they make some more class changes in the future.

    What do you think about project epoch? Be interesting to see a video about the beta from you!

  3. I was enjoying Turtle WoW with my boyfriend until they banned him for saying "This quest is lame" Lame is a slur used in 1950s to describe homosexual people, he didn't know that and was perma banned lol

  4. They need to move their servers to Russia that way blizzard cant shut them down. In Russia the US government has no jurisdiction nor does Russia give a shit what the USA has to say.

  5. TurtleWoW is really fun, I immediatly felt a great vibe playing. Peace, immersion, people helping each other.
    I play without friends but I always found kind people who want to make a party and play together. 🙂

  6. Would be cool to both the developers of each project to join together for a turtle+ server project. Combining the efforts of both teams into one server.

  7. Ive found a few bugs on TurtleWoW like espcially the channelled spells dysyncing or whatever be going on. Also the server has become very very laggy. You will hit lag spikes everyday but doesn't last too long. Not sure about V+. Havent played it in a while but it ran ok for me. Also the world chat can be very toxic on both servers. Be warned!!!

  8. did you actually play XIV or did you do the typical wow player thing and pay to skip all the content to play the newest expansion… then dropped the game before realizing you played the game wrong.

  9. Vanilla+ is better as a vanilla server but needs more people playing on it. Turtle has NO PVP and feels too retail (transmog), also full of dad gamers for this reason.

  10. I've been on Turtle WoW for 3 months now and while it's been great the server is declining. Peak pop rarely gets over 800 now with half of those being hardcores so unable to group and trade with, the bugged flightpaths still haven't been fixed and the class rebalances are now 5 months late and they change the release date every month. I'm honestly starting to suspect that there are no developers working on Turtle WoW anymore but they're trying to cling onto the player base by not telling us. I know it'll never happen but it would be awesome if Turtle and V+ merged into one healthy server given how similar they are instead of competing for players.

  11. Hardcore feels weird and scary from the outside, but once you tasted, you can never go back.
    It makes the game so much more fun and immersive + the community of it is the cherry on top.
    (You become imortal at 60, but while leveling you can't use the AH, can't group/trade with casuals or people bellow/above 5 LvLs.
    Yet we still run badass dungeons xd

  12. I wonder what time you walked into TWoW stormwind. Normally the trade distract has way more people :O Also, I think those class changes were coming together as a general bundle, they'll be live…."soon."

  13. I have recently been leveling on vanilla plus since I saw hamsterwheels videos on it, so far I’ve made it to lvl 50 but I’ve started to feel demotivated to log on to the server for a few reasons, the first being seemingly no guilds on the server raiding in the EU time frame as far as I can tell due to the server being majorly NA and Russian, the second is a seemingly low skill cap/player consistency when I’ve been tanking dungeons while leveling people tend to make glaring mistakes and it is sadly very common which is the same opinion I’ve been getting from other people I’ve spoken to, due to this and player consistency issues non of the current guilds are able to clear mc as far as I know the best guild is currently doing 7/10 as far as I can tell and I still haven’t seen a single person on the server with more then 1 T1 item. Third everyone wants to play meme specs due to them being an option on the server which creates a problem of not only is the server badly in need of tanks and healers but also barely anyone plays warriors rogues and mages. Fourth as also mentioned in the video the server have been out for over 3 years now and at the current phase it’s going at its honestly gonna be 8 years if not more before naxx is out which can be a bit annoying, personally a lot of the content I would like to see added would have to be added post naxx, An example of this is the ashbringer questline.

  14. I just started on V+ Turtle sounds okay, but I feel like V+ offers new and welcome flavors to all classes and specs. I can't wait to level a Warrior to 60 and raid as Arms. The changes they made to the spec are awesome.

  15. Just logged on to Vanilla plus today to check server population. for anyone whos interested, peak V+ pop over the weekend and last four days was 457, a far cry from 1200 two months ago. Turtle wow peaked today at 850 with an average of 400+ people.

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