War Within prot paladin is in a very weird state and the most recent buffs didn’t really deal with its major issues so today we’re talking about the war within prot paladin gameplay and why we currently hate this spec.
As a disclaimer, do note that we always loved this tank and seeing all the war within prot paladin changes gives us hope but so far, for us at least, it’s way to weak!
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Thank God i just started my WoW journey and leveled my prot pal (first char) for a good 15 hours. Time for choose a main i guess 😁
last time i played prot pala was cata,and both in cata and wrath i remember feeling immortal,in wrath you neve wanted a warrior,they sucked,now they are gods for survival,why did they take away the consacration glyph that follows you arround and made staying on constracration mandatory?
''dps cant do anything to save you'' lol as a ret i have saved blood dk tanks very often with lay after their cheat death procs,also random 3-4mil world of glory on dps is often nice
prot pally doesnt feel great right now, but also i hit keystone hero for the first time ever this expansion and it was on prot pally and i have NEVER had mana problems. I only cast WoG when it procs or if im super panic almost dead. And i do have to use major cds for basically every large pack and health pots on CD. AND i do wish my armor was stronger AND one shotting IS a problem. But i have no clue what y’all are talking about with mana.
Granted i’m only doing 10s, not pushing past.
As 2800 prot pally can def feel the difference between all tanks and prot. Playing bear and warior passed my main prot was much easier but may be because i had the knowledge of all dungons already .
2024 TANK VISION "EATING MANA!" even you have 3 stacks shield of righteous and faith in the lightS up , if you dont have defensive and full health at the moment which is hitting by shadow claw you are dead
3:58 mana cost to WoG was added in S2 DF after no healer CoS keys in s1, the dispell cost was also adjusted to 10% base mana at that point
how can i take you serious, when you try to outheal a mechanic that u can dispell. sounds like ure bad
Shadowlands still had off healing. It had to have been in dragonflight or df prepatch that they nerfed spellcosts
It pisses me off, i love prot, and they crushed it into the dirt for no reason other than to make it the worst class/spec in the whole game. Its so bad nobody wants you around.
More videos like this and we will be rejected by community even more, good job
I have been maining a prot paladin since end of BC and I dont think it has ever felt this bad to tank top content.
I don't know how you're building your prot paladins but i'm super tanky with it + i end up above my healer in healing produced in mythic + 😅
Playing Prot Paladin has been a wild adventure so far. It started bad, went better with some practise, more gear and it start feeling fine, and then I got one slapped on a random pack out of of the blue, after many good runs. It just hurts :'). It takes so much concentration to play it atm, it's really tiring.
Imagine a full plate armored fighter with a tower shield who is also capable of using all protective magic of light is the squishiest tank in the game 😂. It doesn’t even make sense
The fact that I have played Prot Paladin off and on for the past 2 decades. And this expansion my baby Blood DK felt WAY more tanky @604 ilvl than my Prot Paladin did @619 ilvl. And I have never played Blood DK seriously till this expac. And I main my Paly as Ret this season. But I kept hearing Prot Paly is trash. So I thought hey my Paly is 619 in tanking gear. Lets go do a 7 Necrotic on my Paly. I was fighting for my LIFE in that key. I do the same key in the same week on my Blood DK that I am still learning to master. And it was a easy clap no stress at all. Prot paly isn't just bad. It needs a all hands on deck buffing session.
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Call me crazy, I don't see these problems on my prot pally. I feel super strong
Anything the costs HP shouldn't also cost mana. That should be a given.
When my word of glory crits, it’s healing for 5mil so word of glory has become another CD as it were
I don't even have sotr on my bars and I've timed all 11s now. Always up and never wasting a click on it.
Macros, mouseovers, sotr macros to multiple abilities… win
Loving prot pal after getting my warrior to 2500, i switched to paladin and am now at 2713. I don't feel squishy, divine guidance bombs with consecration is amazing for heals and dmg. Sotr is bound to some abilities, almost always between 90-95% uptime. My only issue would be the mana of wog and cleanse.
Prot paladins damage reductions all equate to warriors baseline reductions. Then they have a heal that requires charges, no stagger, nothing. MAKE THEIR ABILITIES GRANT SHIELDING ON HIT. So fucking simple. Add a mastery stat "adds shield leech, #% of damage done is granted as a shield"
Just use bubble more and run (this is what Im doing kekw) : 2 poneys leggo !
They need to remove WoG from the GCD and add like 2 seconds to SotR duration. Maybe add some block chance too, and for the love of all that is holy, make it so the slash from flamerenders, fire puch from flame golems and singing steel from shredders don't do 3 times more dmg to a prot pally than to vdh, prot warrior or bear(the tanks I play, dunno about others).
Prot pally dmg is huge, it can help the group a lot when it's not being murdered and the insane kicks allow low kick comps that make underused specs shine. I guess if they make it as tanky as say a prot warrior, pally will instantly become the meta tank so I get why they are cautious with it but man does it feel bad.
Prot pally is actually so good in tww it’s one buff away from being meta
Blizzard sees prot pala is the worst when looking at data and thinks it's a dps issue.. Just like brewmaster in DF they will find out way too late what the actual reason is why prot pala is performing so bad zzz. Oh well luckily there are plenty of other tanks which are fun to play atm.
Pretty sure the mana changes were during Dragonflight.
Prot pala rn feels the worst its felt since literally vanilla. You literally get in situations where you have "free" procs of WOG that you cant spend because you have no mana, and that feels AWFUL. Aside from the fact that every defensive you had was nerfed going into tww. My warrior feels tankier 15 ilvls lower. Mained prot pala for almost a decade but just had to swap off it this expac.
You forgot to add the fact it's the lowest Hp tank
In general paladins in 11.05 gain nothing for pve, from what i saw. Feels like more pvp focusing
I don't really understand blizz's thinking. I was tanking to about 3k io in DF, and toward the end on both DH and prot pala it was incredibly fun. I understand they don't want us to solo content, but that's where boss mechanics come in – stop 1 person being able to solo stuff (adds to kill etc).
Why is blizz against tanks feeling like they don't need a healer to spam them to stay alive, what's the point in being a tank if you're not able to sustain. I'm not sure why they continuously nerf, instead of buff to make things more fun. When stuff is good it's fun, and fun is the point in the game.
Atm I'm not having fun, and just playing ret.
Me as a 615 prot pala with majority bis stats – Why am I getting 1shot by mobs in a 4+? ……
Brewmaster is so much worse, paladin just has a larger playerbase so there's a larger outcry for it.
They need to removed the mana cost from Word of Glory. Prot Paladin used to feel great when that was the case, as well as when Avenger’s Shield granted Holy Power.
This is the most unfun season to play prot paladin, its no tanking, no pleasure, no healing enought, no utility at all, u are just a duck in dugeons, you dont fly good, dont swin good and dont walk good
Nah they made tanking a yawnfest for years this is welcome.
Just give holy power gain from avengers shield
I don't know, but each of your films is some made-up stories that have no reflection in the game.